Matt Damon and Ben Affleck on How Netflix Has Changed Movie Making

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Movie-making has changed for good, and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon have understood the workings of it. The actor duo recently showed up on The Joe Rogan Experience, where they discussed how streaming platforms like Netflix have altered filmmaking in recent times.

Damon pointed out that watching something at home is vastly different from watching the same thing in a theater, especially when a million things are happening around you that make it extremely difficult to focus on your smaller screens. He said,

You’re watching in a room, the lights are on, other sh*t’s going on, the kids are running around, the dogs are running around, whatever it is…It’s just a very different level of attention that you’re willing to or that you’re able to give it.

And that has affected filmmaking to the point that filmmakers have to keep this set of audience in mind before crafting their work. Damon then pointed out that traditionally, movies have about three set pieces, one in each act, with every piece building up in terms of intensity.

Versus now, filmmakers have to pull in viewers right from the get-go so people actually feel like staying instead of just skipping the channel. Damon further said,

Now they’re like, can we get a big one in the first five minutes to get somebody, you know, we want people to stay tuned in…and, you know, it wouldn’t be terrible if you reiterated the plot three or four times in the dialogue because people are on their phone while they’re watching.

Affleck chimed in, stating that he did something similar with The Town (2010) to grab his audience’s attention. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, and for them, it’s the award-winning Adolescence.

Ben Affleck’s Advice on How to Deal With Supply and Demand

ben affleck on joe rogan experienceBen Affleck on JRE | Credits: PowerfulJRE/YouTube

When it comes to forcing the audience to put their phones away and focus solely on a movie, The Rip producers know that it’s unrealistic. They understand that this is a matter of supply and demand, where viewers’ attention remains divided, and filmmakers must find a workaround.

Affleck understands that there’s a huge culture gap between generations, but creators will have to adapt to the changing times. He said,

I get it, yes, it’s true. Also, it’s like supply and demand. People want to look at their phone, they can look at TikTok…you know, they’re going to do that.” So, what’s his advice for dealing with it?

Affleck continued, “I think what you can do is make sh*t the best you can. Make it really good.” It’s as simple as that. People could still want to go to theaters, especially to watch films like Damon’s upcoming The Odyssey.

matt damon on joe rogan experienceMatt Damon on JRE | Credits: PowerfulJRE/YouTube

But at the same time, they want to watch things from the comfort of their own homes, on gadgets they invested their hard-earned money in. Affleck added,

It’s hard to fight supply and demand…If people want to watch a bunch of stuff at home because they invested in TVs and cost us money, they will…But the upside of that is like I can try to do something, hopefully, that actually doesn’t need to have the most urgency to get you to come to the theater with your family.

And that’s how you fight supply and demand, by giving the audience exactly what they need instead of fighting change.

Ben Affleck & Matt Damon Believe Theater & Netflix Can Coexist

The best friends have been in the industry for a long, long time, and they believe streaming platforms and theaters can coexist if given the chance. Instead of seeing them as threats, it’s best to identify their respective strengths and focus on that.

Damon recalled a story of his good friend and actor Terry Kinney, who had gone to see Taxi Driver (1976) in the theater. Disturbed by what was on his screen, Kinney got out of his seat, ready to leave, but he couldn’t bring himself to do so because he was so invested in what was playing in front of him. Soon, more people were standing with him by the door, just watching, because they couldn’t bring themselves to leave.

On the other hand, if someone watching on their phones or TV screens found something disturbing, they could simply change the channel because they aren’t as invested in it as someone in a theater would be.

Rogan rightly said, “The investment of going to a place is much greater.” After a few more examples, including James Cameron’s Avatar, the trio concluded that people will watch movies in theaters if you do it right. Affleck said,

History is full of people who got told a bunch of conventional wisdom and were like, ‘Yeah, but we’re going to do something different.’ And as it turns out, that’s actually what people want, too. Not for you to just repeat the other sh*t that has been done before.

He also stated during the episode that people who prefer streaming platforms can still go to the theaters, adding, “I think we have this idea that’s like an existential threat. Everything that comes along is going to destroy everything,” which doesn’t have to be the case.

Here’s an overview of Damon and Affleck’s new Netflix movie, The Rip:

Movie NameDirectorProduction HouseMain CastIMDb RatingRotten Tomatoes Score
The Rip (2026)Joe CarnahanArtists EquityMatt Damon
Ben Affleck
Steven Yeun
Teyana Taylor
Sasha Calle
Catalina Sandino Moreno
Scott Adkins
Kyle Chandler
6.9/1082%

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Ben Affleck and Matt Damon’s new film, The Rip, is now playing on Netflix.

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